RE: iSCSI: No Framing

["Douglas Otis" <dotis@sanlight.net>]

David,

As this was an interim measure as expressed by many, it would seem unlikely
FIM would gain support in a stand alone draft at this time.  There did seem
to be several expressing a desire in finding a generic means.  I am in favor
of removing the section regarding FIM to reduce initial complexity and
thereby offering a cleaner legacy moving forward.

Doug

> I would note that the most likely approach to "Rip the sucker out"
> would be to declare framing to be experimental, allowing the framing
> text to be moved to a draft that could become an experimental RFC -
> it would not be necessary to bit-bucket the text and lose the
> work invested in it.
>
> Thanks,
> --David
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Pinkerton [mailto:jpink@microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:22 PM
> > To: Amir Shalit; Mark S. Edwards; ips@ece.cmu.edu
> > Subject: RE: iSCSI: No Framing
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I also agree with this approach. Consensus is still a way out,
> > significant work is being done on various fronts to solve some of the
> > fundamental issues blocking consensus, and we should not
> > block the iSCSI
> > spec waiting for consensus.
> >
> > Rip the sucker out.
> >
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Amir Shalit [mailto:amir@astutenetworks.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:29 PM
> > To: Mark S. Edwards; ips@ece.cmu.edu
> > Subject: RE: iSCSI: No Framing
> >
> > In second thought this is the preferred solution for now. Not
> > selecting any type of framing until more progress at the transport
> > level which may include running iSCSI on a modified TCP protocol etc.
> >
> > Amir
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu [mailto:owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu]On Behalf Of
> > Mark S. Edwards
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:49 AM
> > To: ips@ece.cmu.edu
> > Subject: Re: iSCSI: No Framing
> >
> >
> > At 10:46 PM 1/29/2002 -0800, WENDT,JIM (HP-Roseville,ex1) wrote:
> > >Perhaps we should discuss the possibility of not
> > >specifying any framing mechanism (FIM or COWS) in the
> > >first version of iSCSI.
> >
> > Nicely put Jim.  My current opinion is that this issue has contributed
> > to a
> > delay in getting this spec out in to the wild.  This issue MUST be
> > closed
> > next week and I don't see anything close to a consensus.  My preferred
> > approach is to drop this issue now and to look at it at a
> > later date in
> > terms of an IPS re-charter when we get to thinking about version 2 of
> > iSCSI
> > or have some good approaches proposed by the tsvwg or the RDMA WG.
> >
> > Mark.
> >
>