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    Re: IPS Issues document



    
    
    I would like to clarify my comment. I am not contesting the fact that CPU
    will get saturated.
    My concern is that CPU load decrease does not justify specialized silicon
    for protocol processing
    (as it gets soon out-dated like the 186 NICS) and you have the nightmare of
    supporting 2 protocol stacks.  Memory load on the other hand can't be
    solved any other way than by off-loading and reducing copies to a minimum.
    
    Regards,
    Julo
    
    Zachary Amsden <zamsden@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com> on 14/03/2000 20:53:41
    
    Please respond to Zachary Amsden <zamsden@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>
    
    To:   "Bradley, Mark" <mark_bradley@btc.adaptec.com>
    cc:   ips@ece.cmu.edu (bcc: Julian Satran/Haifa/IBM)
    Subject:  Re: IPS Issues document
    
    
    
    
    > Julo, good comments.  My observation is that faster CPU's
    > don't solve the problem.  We have been getting faster CPU's
    > since the beginning of time and the only semi-constant is
    > that we find that the CPU continues to get utilized.  Large
    > MP machines are bought because the processing horsepower
    > is needed for some appl.(s) that consumes it.  Therefore they
    > don't have 'extra' cycles to spare.  Most generic OS's
    > don't support dedicating a processor to specific jobs,
    > either.  Putting a small processor someplace (an IOP) else
    > typically doesn't scale as system processing speed increases,
    > so those often become bottle-necks after some time.  Remember
    > those 186-based networking cards?
    >
    > Bottom line is that % CPU utilization has been, is, and will
    > continue to be an important consideration for some time.
    > It seems we never have enough CPU, memory or disk.  We seem
    > always to find ways to use it up.  (I remember years ago
    > thinking "Wow!  A megabyte on a single platter!  We'll have
    > enough disk space to last 3 or 4 years!!!"  I also recall
    > thinking that a 68020 made for a pretty fast workstation.
    > Now I complain that my dual 450 MHz PC with 128 MB of memory
    > is not fast enough to be a decent office machine next year...
    > :{)   )
    
    I agree completely with that - protocol processing and interrupt time alone
    for a 1 Gbps connection can easily saturate a single CPU, even with
    interrupt
    coalescing and many other tricks.  When you move to a 10 Gbps connection,
    you
    can't just add more CPUs to deal with the problem, because of both cost and
    the fact that you don't get a perfect speedup as you add more CPUs.  This
    makes techniques that reduce CPU and bus utilization more valuable as
    network
    speeds increase.
    
    --
    Zachary Amsden  zamsden@engr.sgi.com  3-6919  31-2-510  Core Protocols
    
    
    
    
    


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