RE: iSCSI: Use of the A bit

[Eddy Quicksall <Eddy_Quicksall@ivivity.com>]

It was pointed out to me by a college that when you said "entire requested
transfer from the target's perspective" that you meant this transfer would
be followed by status.

That is not how I interpreted it. I interpret it as meaning that the target
may have additional transfers before the entire transfer from the initiators
perspective is finished. And therefore this transfer would may not be
followed by status.

Can you please clear that up?

Eddy

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddy Quicksall [mailto:Eddy_Quicksall@ivivity.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 7:41 AM
To: Mallikarjun C.; ips@ece.cmu.edu
Cc: Julian_Satran@il.ibm.com
Subject: RE: iSCSI: Use of the A bit


Yes, I agree.

Eddy

-----Original Message-----
From: Mallikarjun C. [mailto:cbm@rose.hp.com]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:22 PM
To: ips@ece.cmu.edu
Subject: Re: iSCSI: Use of the A bit


I agree with Julian.

Seems to me that targets should be allowed to ask for an ack
on the last Data-In PDU that concludes the entire transfer for the
task - a follow-up NOP-ping is needless.  I propose that we

replace:
  "it MAY set the A bit to 1 only once every MaxBurstSize bytes and MUST NOT
do so more frequently than this."

with:
  "it MAY set the A bit to 1 only once every MaxBurstSize bytes or on the
last
   Data-In PDU that concludes the entire requested transfer from the
target's
   perspective, and MUST NOT do so more frequently than this."
--
Mallikarjun

Mallikarjun Chadalapaka
Networked Storage Architecture
Network Storage Solutions Organization
Hewlett-Packard MS 5668
Roseville CA 95747
cbm@rose.hp.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julian Satran" <Julian_Satran@il.ibm.com>
To: "Paul Koning" <ni1d@arrl.net>
Cc: <Eddy_Quicksall@ivivity.com>; <ips@ece.cmu.edu>;
<owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu>; <rod.harrison@windriver.com>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: iSCSI: Use of the A bit


> That could be so but it would be overkill. Status ACK can implicitly
> acknowledge the last transfer.
> And Yes the fact that the last transfer is not mentioned is an oversight
> that I will correct.
> This does not mean that you HAVE TO raise the A flag or that you are
> ENCOURAGED to do so :-)
>
> Julo
>
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> Paul Koning <ni1d@arrl.net>
> Sent by: owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu
> 15-03-02 16:09
> Please respond to Paul Koning
>
>
>         To:     Eddy_Quicksall@ivivity.com
>         cc:     rod.harrison@windriver.com, ips@ece.cmu.edu
>         Subject:        RE: iSCSI: Use of the A bit
>
>
>
> >>>>> "Eddy" == Eddy Quicksall <Eddy_Quicksall@ivivity.com> writes:
>
>  Eddy> I think we may need better explanation about why some folks
>  Eddy> don't want to do the "positive ack".
>
>  >> We got to this position, since so many folks did not want to
>  >> support the positive ack.
>
> Something doesn't compute here.
>
> I don't believe the discussion has anything to do with whether you
> support positive ACK or not.  If you're doing error recovery level 1
> or above, then you are required to support it, because the other end
> is allowed to say A=1 and you're required to answer that.
>
> If you don't want to support positive ACK, the solution is to support
> only error recovery level 0.
>
> The issue under discussion is whether the rule "you are allowed to set
> A=1 only once per MaxBurstSize" is correct.  At this point it's clear
> to me that it is not, because you need to be able to set A=1 at the
> end of the transfer.  The current rule forbids that unless the total
> transfer size is >= MaxBurstSize.
>
> Kevin's proposal is a simple fix to this problem.
>
>                   paul
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