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    RE: iSCSI: Out of order commands



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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Robert D. Russell [mailto:rdr@mars.iol.unh.edu]
    > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:46 AM
    > To: Somesh Gupta
    > Cc: Julian Satran; ips@ece.cmu.edu
    > Subject: RE: iSCSI: Out of order commands
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > Somesh:
    > 
    > > > It seems to me that if a target can only handle x new commands,
    > > > then its queueing capacity is x, and in the SCSI Response PDU it
    > > > should set MaxCmdSN = (ExpCmdSn + x - 1), in accordance with the
    > > > formula in section 2.2.2.1.  This in turn controls the number of
    > > > commands the initiator can send, and thus prevents the incoming
    > > > commands from overfilling the target's queue.
    > > 
    > >   This is actually a weakness of the multiple connections over
    > >   multiple adapters model (it is not related to ordering).
    > >   The target advertises a command window on a session wide basis.
    > >   At the same time, it has to provide the resource to the adapter
    > >   to be able to DMA those commands to. Since there is no restriction
    > >   on which connection the commands may be received, either the
    > >   target has to allocate the max resources needed to each adapter
    > >   (thus committing n times the resources actually required), or
    > >   has to "lie" (it would not be a complete lie) which could
    > >   result in running out of resources. One way to fix that would be
    > >   to have the credit on a per connection basis.
    > 
    > If I understand you correctly, you are saying that deadlock can
    > occur even if we enforce ordered delivery by initiators and even
    > if the advertisements are correct and even if both parties obey
    > the advertisements.
    
      I would let Julian enlighten us on that, or whether it just
      leads to wholesale command drops and retries, or TASK SET FULL
      is returned (is TASK SET FULL a valid response in this case
      for a LINKED task when it is not the first command?)
    
    > 
    > In other words, doesn't this mean that the standard can lead to a
    > trap in implementing targets and that, in fact, the advertisements
    > really should be on a per connection basis?
    > However, what would be the consequences for initiators if
    > the advertisements were on a per-connection basis?
    
      There is really no issue with adveritisement on a per
      connection basis. It leads to a protocol change. However, it
      also allows a much more performant flow of commands.
    
    > 
    > 
    > Thanks,
    > 
    > Bob Russell
    > InterOperability Lab
    > University of New Hampshire
    > rdr@iol.unh.edu
    > 603-862-3774
    > 
    > 
    > 
    


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